The Dark Knight Lost?

I just came back from the cinema again after watching for a second time. I’m still BLOWN AWAY! I don’t care how many times you let me watch that movie, I don’t think I could get sick of it. I knew I was going to watch it again with Mister G, hence i purposely allowed myself to slip away from certain things for the first time I watched it. So i kept my eye open even more to notice little things which i hadn’t noticed before. The one thing i enjoy about watching movies with Mister G – other than the fact i get to hold his hand in the cinema – is how i get to tell him about some trivia or behind the scenes stuff which i found either online or through articles and also by the fact, we start to discuss about a film after having seen it. It’s a lot of fun having a good talk out session with him even though we end up in a bit of a debate in the process. ***note for those who have not yet seen the movie, please turn away NOW – you have been warned!***

It’s all… part of the plan… wa hahahahahahahaha

You know despite the fact the JOker keeps on insisting that he has no plan, I think he is a down right hypocrite.. everything he did… seemed like a well thought out plan. If not why would he have to keep on asking or looking at his watch whether his schemes have taken place.

So who is the victim here? The clown who believes that the city is governed by too many rules? The man who fights for justice but on his terms? Or the man who lost everything in order to save the city from bad men?

Anyway the debate was about differences in premises. He believes that the Joker won in the end and managed a ‘checkmate’ position where everything he had hoped for fell to his advantage. Meaning not only did he manage to get Harvey Dent mad, making him lose his reputation and die, but in the process he made Batman into a wanted man, because Batman had to take the fall of Harvey Dent in order to ensure the people still had hope for some sort of good in the corrupted city. In this, the Joker had caused Batman to go from being a hero to a zero, a person who is against the law. So either way, Joker won in that sense.

I just needed a reason to put this poster up cause it’s the first time i’m seeing it.

Where as I believe that the Joker only managed to ‘eat the queen’ and didn’t get to confirm the death of the ‘king’. My argument is the Joker didn’t not get his wish of causing people to lose hope in goodness, he did not get to see people be as sick as him. He did not get to see the citizens of Gotham City lose hope in a person who is able to help them. I believe the Joker wanted the people to realise that they could not trust anyone, that they have no one to turn too. That everyone is just out to save their own skin. The Joker did not get to see the two ships being blown to smithereens and the citizens did not see the wrong doing of the man they believed in. So to me i don’t think the Joker won. I don’t know what do you people think? Do you think at the end of the movie, the Joker won what he had set out to do? Or do you think some level of justice still prevailed and the Joker’s wishes were ruined?